An usual day at unusual school (answers)
I was captivated at the website which Yi Chen linked us to, @ http://www.c3.lanl.gov/mega-math/workbk/logic/loplay.html
so..... i decided to do an analysis on who actually is a brave and who actually is a bright. this analysis would not have been complete with the great help of Yi chen (who actually solved the ones which i do not know. he also actually solved the puzzle in the end). so thanks alot to Yi chen. anyone who is interested, go to the link and read the play. its real interesting and will bring sense to whatever im abt to say."
And here's the real story: now we see from scene 3 that Mr. Bumbleton is actually a brave, by stating that "you have not yet decided which one you will be" when obviously he actually did. so...back to scene 1, we realise that Ms. smart is a bright, since mr. bumbleton, the liar, stated that she lied.
Now we figured out the basics, lets move on to analysing the charaters in scene 2. Ms. Boss is obviously a Brave.
now we move on from desk to desk.
jan and mikes are brights. you can see as if jan was a brave, her sentence would have translated: "Brights would always say that they r braves", which make no sense at all. mike just sorts of repeats what jan says, so he is actually a bright too.
Pat and Denise can be bright and braves. There's actually no way we can say which is which. The key point is that they two cannot be the same. Since Pat said that Denise is a Brave, and if Pat is a bright, Denise would be a brave and if Pat is a brave, he will accuse Denise to be a brave while she is not. In any case they must be of different kinds and hence this pair will not affect the final count there's no need to find out which is which.
John and Emily. this one is quite easy. assume that john is a bright. what he said would be perfectly true. but is he was a brave, and emily can be anything else (bright or brave), the whole thing would not make sense.
Billy must be a bright here. if billy was a brave, then there would 2 braves or no braves at all, since he lied that "Exactly one of us is a Brave". but if there are no braves at all, billy himself is a brave. if there are 2 braves all together, susan wouldnt be saying that billy is a brave, cause then she would be telling the truth. so the only explanation is that billy is a bright. susan is lying about billy is being a brave, so she is a brave.
Pete and Sandra gave very little information, but i managed to guess it in the end. You see, that pete is a brave because he said "OK, OK, then, we're both Braves. Now leave us alone! ". if he was a bright, he would have told the truth, that he is a bright. so this shows that he is a brave. But if they are both braves, pete would be telling the truth. So now the only logical explanation left is that pete lied about both of them being braves, which leaves Sandra a bright.
Alice might be a brave or a bright, but Dan must be a bright. If Alice is a bright, then her first sentence would be true, which makes Dan a bright as well. If she is a brave, it means that they are of different types and since she is the brave, Dan will still be a bright. There's no way that we can knoe if Alice is bright or brave though.
Mark and Pam can be anything. Since they both claim to be brights. A bright would claim to be a bright as it is the truth. A brave would also claim to be a bright since braves always lies.
Tonny is a bright, while Becky is a brave. If Tonny was a brave, the fact would be that both of them are braves, because he lied about Becky being the only brave. But if both are braves, then Susan will not say that Tonny is a brave bacause by saying so, she would be telling the truth. So, the couclusion is that Tonny was telling the truth, and Becky is a brave.
Tom and Connie is pretty interesting. the first 4 questions dont tell much, as both braves and brights would have had the same answer. but from the last question, is somebody lying, we can see that tom is inconsistent with his answers. since braves lie to everything, and we assume that tom was a brave, tom would have lied that his partner is a brave in the 3rd question. and at the 4th question, there IS somebody lying (that is tom himself), so he has to lie that no one was lying, thus the contradiction in tom's answers. connie is a bright as her answers dont contradict and makes sense with all the things tom said(or lied about).
That's the character evaluation of the whole story. Here's the list:
Ms Smart: bright
Bumbleton: brave
Ms Boss: brave
Jan: bright
Mike: brave
Pat: bright
Denise: brave
John: bright
Emily: brave
Billy: bright
Susan: brave
Sandra: bright
Pete: brave
Alice: bright/brave
Dan: bright
Mark: bright/brave
Pam: bright/brave
Tony: bright
Becky: brave
Tom: brave
Connie: bright
Total number of people (excluding Terry): 21
There are three possible cases (excluding Alice) :
9 brights and 11 braves
10 brights and 10 braves
11 brights and 9 braves
At the end of the story, Terry said that there are 11 brights and 10 braves. I will now conclude it case by case.
Case one: no matter if Alice is a bright of brave, 9 brights and 11 braves cant become 11 brights and 10 braves. Terry got the answer wrong, and become a brave.
Case two: Alice is a bright, making 10 brights and 10 braves to be 11 brights and 10 braves. Terry got the answer correct, and he become a bright.
Case three: Alice is a brave, making 11 brights and 9 braves to be 11 brights and 10 braves. Terry got the answer correct, and he become a bright.
To make the whole puzzle seem reasonable and let me and Wang Cong have a sense of accomplishment, we say that Terry is a bright. Yeah that's it, we solved it.
The End
the genii (english spelling of geniuses[ok that was to show of]) who actually solved the puzzle: Lin Yi Chen ,Yu Wang Cong
Just a random post
Yo hello guys do you want to expand the siannrentuan?
haha like we are 1/6 of Cresmic but still it can be greater isnt it??
lol idk la just a suggestion but ya la dno who else to add in lol..
oh and talking abt 1/6 of Cresmic, its a name that is reserved by:
Amanda, Kellie, Christine, Pearl, Shaun and Jin Zhi
another great clique in the class.
so yay we, meaning 1/6 Cresmic and us Siann rens,
make up 1/3 of Cresmic oredi haha
oh i almost forgot,
the violence gang.
includes Jin Zhi, Isaac, Justin, Melvin,
with betrayer wangcong sometimes =x
hahah just joking la.
ohh another one.. the banders!
Jiaying, Sophin, Huiting, Wenlin, Gavin..
ahemahems..lol
well i most impartial one heh
i friend with everyone de so no much things except the siannrens hehe i very loyal haahah
whatever la i m random and ego, geddit? =x
ya ya so if you got any thing need my help like wana purchase beaded stuffs to give friens and family you can contact me via msn or my number heh
i sure ure know one la and for siann rens sure got special price one i tell you now
& 1 more thing, if you need help on maths sets or is interested in malay,
please contact me and i will always be ready to help you willingly just with the power of $$ heh
Attention!
all informations and words are to be ignored in any case unless about my noble acts
lalala im really crapping hardly...
no la just wana ask if you all agree to spread the word of this blog.
can reply via tagboard la but better to post heh xD
if not hor this will die very soon lehh..
lalalala end of crapping session with randomity.
btw, pls go to MOE blog too heh
cuz we are enthu!!
yeahyeah~ awesome~~
ah one last thing to ask
wana any cheers or whatsoever?
you want siannrens tee oso can
just that perhaps no one design no one buy,
i mean predicted what =x
lol la whatever it is, just stay united la shall we??
oh im asking crap.
finally, sorry for my randomness, just caught it from felicia sia
gah see you all soon.
and who got same grp in idmi of siannrens?
mann i shall end here le la if not i will not be able to stop haha
~Randomness is might~
**Vivienne**
For people who got nothing better to do and want to think about something that make no sense unless you are really a genius, click the two links below
http://http://www.c3.lanl.gov/mega-math/workbk/infinity/inhotel.htmlhttp://www.c3.lanl.gov/mega-math/workbk/logic/loplay.html
im back! (posted late by 1 week)
heyall, im (gavin)'s back from brisbane, australia!!!
(yay clap and cheer
blahblah)
anywayz i 4got to get u all souvenirs that can actually last
sooooooo......you guys and the rest of the class (shld be) will get chocolate coated macadamia nuts(ie australian food/snacks)!!!!! (kindly sponsored by
moi)
i seriously missed you guys when i was lyk in brisbane for lyk the 1st day, but u became a distant memory urm by the next day kks...cos i was having so much fun with
BAND!!!!nvr mind
and everyone get jealous cos im giving wc a keychain from dreamworld(if he wants it cos i got it 4 free
gavin = cheapskate)
Games for relaxation
Caution: Mature Themes
Have fun!!!!!!
Revival
REVIVALREVIVALREVIVALREVIVALREVIVAL
Price My Name
Atcually guys, PriceMyName.net does nothing better but to see if any1 else searched for the value of the name. And if no one has ever searched it, your name would be worth around 260000000, if some1 has already searched for it, the price would be sort of halved. Since this isnt a popular website, most of the time you will be the only one who has searched for the name. Xin Yan probably searched for her name twice. So mervyn, actually hell slayer is a real retarded name except that the website is kind of retarded too.
So mervyn this is why you dont rock. this is why im hot XD
Pictures!!!!!!
Okay, i promised to post the
unglam photos of we siann rens[minus Gavin], so here we are...
Left to right: LYC, YWC, MTY, YXXY, VTJYEh, shot1...erm in an train which will bring us back in time...
can anyone see us???
Left to right: LYC, MTY, YWC, VTJY, YXXY
Shot2..slightly clearer=)
Eh, Mervyn, since when are you shorter than me???
=x
Okie, this purely for entertainment.....
Driver Tan!!!!!
Back to topic, did any of the siann rens found the trip USEFUL???
Cheers,
TwistedLove
Another Random Post
Your Superpower Should Be Manipulating Fire
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You are intense, internally driven, and passionate.
Your emotions are unpredictable - and they often get the better of you.
Both radiant and terrifying, people are drawn to you.
At your most powerful, you feel like the world belongs to you.
Why you would be a good superhero: You are obsessive enough to give it your all
Your biggest problem as a superhero: Your moodiness would make it difficult to control your powers
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At a PLC meeting...
Instructor : I need some of your feedback to improve myself... Ok, u go first.
Person 2 : *keeps silent*
Instructor : Don't worry, I will not scold you. You are all PL's to be you know!
Person 2 : Sir, I think that you are inefficent, you do not do what you say, you set us
impossible goals that you can't do, you are......
(goes on for 10min)
Instructor : *looks surprised* you say I do not do what I say?? I will demonstrate to you right now
(does 100 sit-ups consecutively)
Instructor : Now it's your turn.
My name is rare too!!!
I rock too!!! TwistedLove...hahahaha..........
Reminder
plz reach little india mrt by 1.30 ; if u have not reached yet, please call yi chen ( Yes, yi chen..) and report position
Instructor : take your time ah, everyone down !
Person 1 : one, sir !
Person 1 : permission to screw me some more, sir !
I think Yi Chen wants to be * person 1 * [ LoL ]
totally random
ok... this is why i rock
LTA meeting
Gentle reminder to all siann ren members and commitee:There will be a trip to LTA this wednesday, 4/6/08. Pls meet at Little India MRT station at 1.30pm. We'll make[find] our way there. However, if you DO NOT wish to travel and battle your way there with us, theres an alternative route. You can teleport directly to the LTA BY 1.45pm SHARP and when the SRs reach, we'll parade into the LTA together. Pls reply by tagging that you've take note of the trip. Thanks.TwistedLove025
The Negotiator
